Well I Be Damn....

"Brickman" (legomaniacman) 04/20/2017 at 20:29 • Filed to: None

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I thought all was good with my Caravan, replace CV joints soon, etc... I was going down the highway and the van just gradually slows down by itself, engine hesitates to move and I pull over. Engine still runs, but hesitates anything over idle. Call my sister to pull me & dad home and while waiting the engine gets rougher and dies and will not start. ( about a year ago the PCM died a block away from the house, but died a quick death)

Back home, checked codes and there are none. Will do the ol ignition coil test tomorrow and see if PCM pin #10 is grounded out on the ignition.

Sheez I need a new car... money first.

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E90M3 > Brickman 04/20/2017 at 20:33

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Every time I see “PCM” I think “precision continuous mixer” because that’s what PCM meant at my last job.

Brickman > E90M3 04/20/2017 at 20:34

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I had to look that up :P I call it Piece of Crap Module.

Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing. > E90M3 04/20/2017 at 22:20

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For me, I thought Pulse-Code Modulation, recalling the early days of digital audio. I did a lot of live, all-digital recordings back in the ‘80s using the professional version of one of these:

Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing. > Brickman 04/20/2017 at 22:21

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My last girlfriend had a Caravan, and she got it for a song. After a few months of random electrical glitches and oddities we found out why. That PoS made my old Rabbit GTI seem reliable by comparison.

jimz > Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing. 04/21/2017 at 06:31

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Do keep in mind the “PoS” in question is over 20 years old.

Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing. > jimz 04/21/2017 at 07:32

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I forget - is the PCM that fancy fuse box that’s keyed to the VIN? That’s the part that was failing on my GF’s Caravan.

20 year old FCA product that is still running? Borrowed time, amirite?

jimz > Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing. 04/21/2017 at 07:50

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FCA didn’t exist 20 years ago.

Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing. > jimz 04/21/2017 at 08:09

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Funny. You know what I meant. It’s not like Chrysler’s quality has really improved over the last 25 years, irrespective of who their corporate masters were...

jimz > Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing. 04/21/2017 at 08:21

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considering some of the stuff which gets said around here, I make few assumptions.

and besides, come on. it’s a 20-21 year old car. Expecting stuff not to break is silly. FWIW, I can’t remember the last time I saw a 20 year old Camry or Accord on the road.

cripes. cars used to be used up and dead in 5-7 years, now we expect them to be flawless at 20.

Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing. > jimz 04/21/2017 at 09:46

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I spend a lot of time at junkyards, poking around and taking pictures (and occasionally grabbing a few interesting parts). Most of the vehicles are accident damaged, with a handful just eaten by the tin worm; this is the Midwest, after all. I know most of the newer vehicles don’t make it to these kinds of lots, but a handful do, mostly because of neglect.

It is impressive how long cars do last these days. I know the ‘joy’ of keeping older vehicles on the road, with the E21 going about 25 years before I sold it to a friend, and the E34 still going after 28 years. The troubleshooting becomes more involved and the problems even weirder, but that’s just part of the charm of driving a classic.

Akio Ohtori - RIP Oppo > Brickman 04/21/2017 at 17:28

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Sounds almost like an air leak to me. Or maybe a MAF problem?

Brickman > Akio Ohtori - RIP Oppo 04/21/2017 at 21:14

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Nope. PCM died. Crank sensor and cam sensor pins on the PCM are grounding out on the ground pins.

Long-Voyager > Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing. 05/03/2017 at 07:28

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Just borrowing time in Wisconsin

Long-Voyager > Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing. 05/03/2017 at 07:30

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If you get a van (any vehicle for that matter) cheap, chances are it’s going to have issues. Goes with the territory.